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Postby Hitman » Thu Apr 20, 2006 11:01 am

BustyB wrote:Because someone is deformed, that makes them less worthy of a life?


Yes.
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Postby amunhra » Fri Apr 21, 2006 4:50 am

BustyB wrote:It was selfish for the parents to take responsibility for the life they created?

It was selfish for them to want to love and care for that little girl with all their hearts?

Because someone is deformed, that makes them less worthy of a life?


1. No. It was selfish of them to let the child live to ease their own pains. She would have died without proper care. 50 years ago, this child would have died; now the doctors are proud that they saved her, the parents have an eased mind that their child lived. But the consequences don't seem to phase them.

2. To me, yes. The child has no mental diseases, she's going to be completely aware of being shunned by her peers. She's going to live a lonely and abusive life cos most people are terrible and will hurt her because of her unusual look. Talking from experience of being shunned for being the only French girl in an all Italian and Greek school (which is a joke compared to what she'll have to live with). I can just imagine how cruel people will be to her. Most people are vain, shallow and callous, being accepted in such a society will be life shattering for a girl with her deformities.

3. Absolutely not. BUT what kind of life will she live? She's deaf, so she's also mute, she can't even express her pain to the people around her. Will she ever have love? Will she ever have friends?

Is that even living? :(

I personally hope that she can have the closest semblance of a normal life. But can you seriously tell me you think she will?

BTW, I love debating opinions. I'm not demeaning any of the points you have or will make, just so you know :D
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Postby Hitman » Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:06 am

Whilst I do empathise with some of what you have to say, I feel you are only seeing this from a superficial level, based on looks, and what other people think. FUCK other people, and FUCK looks. You are also basing your thoughts on the things that you consider important in life, such as "love" (She'll be loved by her parents, right?), friends (Who are you to say she will never make friends?) etc.

This girl has a right to life as much as anyone, and her parents have given her that.
It's better to have tried to live, than to never have lived at all.

Some people with less adversity than her, some with little to none at all, waste their petty little lives. I see this poor little girl making the absolute most of hers. Good on her...
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Postby Chantel » Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:20 am

amunhra wrote:1. No. It was selfish of them to let the child live to ease their own pains. She would have died without proper care. 50 years ago, this child would have died; now the doctors are proud that they saved her, the parents have an eased mind that their child lived. But the consequences don't seem to phase them.

2. To me, yes. The child has no mental diseases, she's going to be completely aware of being shunned by her peers. She's going to live a lonely and abusive life cos most people are terrible and will hurt her because of her unusual look. Talking from experience of being shunned for being the only French girl in an all Italian and Greek school (which is a joke compared to what she'll have to live with). I can just imagine how cruel people will be to her. Most people are vain, shallow and callous, being accepted in such a society will be life shattering for a girl with her deformities.

3. Absolutely not. BUT what kind of life will she live? She's deaf, so she's also mute, she can't even express her pain to the people around her. Will she ever have love? Will she ever have friends?

Is that even living? :(

I personally hope that she can have the closest semblance of a normal life. But can you seriously tell me you think she will?

BTW, I love debating opinions. I'm not demeaning any of the points you have or will make, just so you know :D


The thing is,

It's that exact way of thinking and that narrowmindedness that WILL PREVENT her from leading a "normal" life.

You're not even giving her a chance (to prove her worth - if you really must)!!

You don't know know what she is capable of or what she has the potential to DO (if of course GIVEN THE CHANCE to have a go).

1. You do not know that the parents of this child only kept her alive to stop their own pain. For starters - do you not think that they too would experience funny looks, whispers, etc? They created her out of an act of love and commitment to each other. They didn't buy her from a shop, realise she was "faulty" and want to return her! To me it's quite obvious that they feel blessed to have created yet another life. AND her sister looks quite happy to have her as a sister also.

2. Yes some people will stare and tease. Big deal. Some people used to stare and tease me too and I actually look half normal! What makes you think she can't handle that through her strength of character? SO MANY people with disabilities or physical differences are able to live a very normal life in everyday society. Not only that - through her formative years I'm pretty sure her parents aren't going to be able to put her into a conventional school and will actually have her attend a school where they will be able to accommodate her much better.

3. So deaf and mute people aren't worth living either? Just because someone can't talk or hear that means they can't find any other way to express themselves? If there's a will, there's a way. She would develop her own method of communication which the people around her will learn to understand. Everyone is deservant of love and there is someone for everyone.

Not everyone in the world is shallow, vain and heartless. If that were the case NO ONE would have friends find love.

There are LOTS of people that have a huge fucking heart and DON'T judge or LIMIT/RESTRICT an individual based on appearances.
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Postby Chantel » Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:24 am

Hitman wrote:Whilst I do empathise with some of what you have to say, I feel you are only seeing this from a superficial level, based on looks, and what other people think. FUCK other people, and FUCK looks. You are also basing your thoughts on the things that you consider important in life, such as "love" (She'll be loved by her parents, right?), friends (Who are you to say she will never make friends?) etc.

This girl has a right to life as much as anyone, and her parents have given her that.
It's better to have tried to live, than to never have lived at all.

Some people with less adversity than her, some with little to none at all, waste their petty little lives. I see this poor little girl making the absolute most of hers. Good on her...


Well said.

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Postby craigwardo » Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:53 am

It's that exact way of thinking and that narrowmindedness that WILL PREVENT her from leading a "normal" life.


There's no way in hell she will be able to lead a "normal" life Chantel.

I agree with everthing else you said though.
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Postby Chantel » Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:59 am

craigthropik wrote:There's no way in hell she will be able to lead a "normal" life Chantel.

I agree with everthing else you said though.


And then we come to the question of...

What is normal?


Because something may be rare it makes it abnormal?
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Postby Chantel » Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:03 am

my life certainly isn't whatever 'normal' is suppose to encompass!
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